Ep. 5 - Hitchcock v. Hedren // GUEST: Elliott Kalan

We explore Alfred Hitchcock's classic film The Birds, as well as the recent HBO film The Girl -- a behind the scenes look at the director's messy and often abusive relationship with the star of The Birds, Tippi Hedren. What makes The Birds so scary? Does Hitchcock's gross off-screen personality affect our appreciation for his art? We'll also check in with Tippi all these years later, whose squelched acting career made way for her life's work operating the Shambala Preserve, a shelter for big cats. Daily Show writer, host of the screening series Closely Watched Films, co-host of The Flophouse Podcast, and Hitchcock aficionado Elliott Kalan joins us for this discussion about when artist-muse relationships go wrong.